#I hope these women stay offline for awhile

[thebestusernamepossible]

Aw fuck, guys I get that it sucks Neil Gailman is accused of SA. But it’s not about him, it’s about the SA survivors. If you are withholding judgment or waiting for more evidence, or for more to come out, then ok fine. But it is NOT ok what so ever to ethier act like the SA survivors are ‘ruining your fandom’ or ‘probably liars for terfs’ (actual thing I’ve seen). Can you fucking imagine how horrible it would be to bravely come out like this against your abuser (who has adoring fans, and if more powerful than you), only to be met with people etheir theorising you may be a transphobic plant or making it about them and how your trauma inconveniences them. This is about THEM, stop making about how much this hurts you. These are real people. If the allegations turn out to be false, ok, THEN you can say whatever you want. But until then let’s treat this with grace and NOT fucking victim blame them. Our hearts need to be with the survivors of SA at the moment, remember that, these are real people.

Also, again, stop making it more about fandom than the SA survivors. Please.

[zendyval]

I resonated with what you said about feeling like you feel like the Z defender when it's not like that. Yes, I am a huge fan, she is my favorite actor. I like the personality, morals, and values she has allowes us to see. One of the main reasons I stan is I think she is one of the few celebs in the world who would stick by their values and morals and sacrifice for them if push comes to shove. There is plenty of evidence from her past actions to back up my claim. I really like how she handles herself as a celebrity and does not get swept up by the whole lifestyle that makes you think and feel better than everyone else. She does not have a destructive or negative ego. Saying all that like you I am not a cult follower. If Z were ever to say something homophobic, capitalist i.e. putting down workers, or say something ignorant about dark skin black women and other things that go against my morals and values I would not stan. She would still be my favorite actor because we all like problematic faves but the way I feel about her now would not be the same. I say that as a hypocrite because I have family members that I speak to and even love that have morals and values different from mine and I work with people who have different views of the world and I have not quit my job. But that's ok for me because life is complicated and gray. Also as a black woman myself, I empathize with her so much. I have an idea of what she goes through even though I am not a celeb and she has a lot more eyes on her. Like you, I see her as human and when I see people putting her on the pedestal they say she puts on herself by having unrealistic expectations on how she acts and looks I will defend her. Some Z stans have been swept up by Tomdaya, her relationships with other men or allow anons to changed their tunes because they got tired of people coming into their inbox questioning why they stan or defend her or nip tick her behavior so much that they themselves start doing the same or allowing people to get away with really disgraceful and disrespectful stuff under the cloak of joking or satire. That all to say I appreciate your consistency. I have never seen you as a blind follower just fair on how you judge the black woman and not having anons drive you off is really commendable. And like you there are a lot of male actors or celebs I like, but I would have to stop liking every single female actor or celeb in the world before I start staning or consider a man my fav.

Thanks for sharing and no, anons don't really get to me at all. I'm with you. If Z ever said or did something I couldn't look past, I would gladly call her out on it and have to reevaluate. Also just because she's human, I'm sure there will be little things. Maybe not major values that misalign, but everybody makes small missteps occasionally.

The weird thing about Z is I've been following her so long that I don't pretend to know her or how she feels about things offline, but she's been so steady and consistent over the years that I never really worry about her coming out with some crazy viewpoint. For instance when all the slap nonsense happened at the Oscars, I knew 100% that Z was going to stay quiet and mind her business and there is a comfort in that.

Sometimes I'll get really into other actors or actresses or whoever for awhile and if they are new to me there is always a period of really hoping I don't find out they are an asshole or a secret right wing crazy person or some other craziness. With Z, I'm good.